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Benjaminvegeta Novice
Joined: 21 Feb 2010 Posts: 36 Location: Bavaria/Germany
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Posted: Mon Mar 08, 2010 11:54 am Post subject: |
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Yeah I will try the heat resistance of the rubber before and then see if I need to replace them with screws.
Regarding the seal. In fact the lower frame is beneath the forming platen level. But itīs less differance than it seemed in the planning process. So yes, I too were thinking about this problem.
I came to 2 possible solutions: First would be to use the router and route around the forming platen so that the main table plate there is thinner.
Second would be easier: Running a sealing rubber along the forming platen.On the place round the platen where there are no holes. You understand what I mean?^^ _________________ If it doesnīt exist, build it! |
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spektr Master
Joined: 07 Jan 2008 Posts: 425
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Posted: Mon Mar 08, 2010 1:57 pm Post subject: |
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Even easier.. Glue and nail triangle wood stock to the edge of the platen. This raises it, gives a pointy seal edge and is cheap, fast and effective. Fill any small gaps with silicine house sealant.. Lets not overthink stuff...... lolol
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jdougn Guru
Joined: 18 Mar 2009 Posts: 714 Location: Louisville KY area
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Posted: Mon Mar 08, 2010 4:37 pm Post subject: |
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Benjaminvegeta wrote: | Second would be easier: Running a sealing rubber along the forming platen.On the place round the platen where there are no holes. You understand what I mean?^^ |
Hey Ben, I tried using different weather stripping products that are designed to seal around door or windows. Some of them didn't work at all.
The one that worked best was EPDM Rubber Window Weatherstrip. It is item number Item #: 66787 at www.lowes.com. Of course, you probably can't get it from there but at least it gives you an idea.
The problem with any self adhesive product that I found is that the adhesive will not hold when it gets as hot as our vac formers. I found that "super glue" did a good job of holding the EPDM rubber in place when heated.
hth, DougN _________________ DougN - Just in case you're wondering, I got my "rating" legitimately... by posting aimless drivel, useless advice, and pointless questions. |
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Freq
Joined: 23 Feb 2010 Posts: 4
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Posted: Mon Mar 08, 2010 5:47 pm Post subject: |
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spektr wrote: | Even easier.. Glue and nail triangle wood stock to the edge of the platen. This raises it, gives a pointy seal edge and is cheap, fast and effective. Fill any small gaps with silicine house sealant.. Lets not overthink stuff...... lolol
Scott. |
LOL, just use some rubber seal. |
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jdougn Guru
Joined: 18 Mar 2009 Posts: 714 Location: Louisville KY area
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Posted: Tue Mar 09, 2010 8:15 am Post subject: |
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Freq wrote: | LOL, just use some rubber seal. |
Is there a particular product your recommend? _________________ DougN - Just in case you're wondering, I got my "rating" legitimately... by posting aimless drivel, useless advice, and pointless questions. |
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Benjaminvegeta Novice
Joined: 21 Feb 2010 Posts: 36 Location: Bavaria/Germany
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Posted: Wed Mar 10, 2010 10:00 am Post subject: |
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Today the Oven box was mounted:
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Benjaminvegeta Novice
Joined: 21 Feb 2010 Posts: 36 Location: Bavaria/Germany
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Posted: Mon Mar 15, 2010 11:24 am Post subject: |
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Today I finished my lifting mechanism. Waiting for the plastic sliders to complete the frame/lifting part.
Then only electric wiring and plumbing is left on the To-Do List
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Israel franco Novice
Joined: 22 Sep 2005 Posts: 51 Location: mexico d.f.
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Posted: Sat Mar 20, 2010 11:19 pm Post subject: |
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looks great Benjaminvegeta I wonder how tall are the side posts (from the base to the oven) may be was the picture, but I get the impression that the distance between the oven and the platen is more short than what I've seen in other pictures
by the way this distance is not affected? in other words, if is too short may not allow the plastic to cool or take longer than usual?
anyway great job!!! |
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Benjaminvegeta Novice
Joined: 21 Feb 2010 Posts: 36 Location: Bavaria/Germany
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Posted: Sun Mar 21, 2010 3:18 am Post subject: |
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Hi,
the posts are 70cm tall from platen to bottom of the oven box.
I first was going with 100cm, but that would have been a little to tall. Would have needed a longer lifting mechanism that would be hard to reach in top position.
Iīm not afraid that the plastic wonīt cool. I think the 70cm should be enough space. _________________ If it doesnīt exist, build it! |
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Israel franco Novice
Joined: 22 Sep 2005 Posts: 51 Location: mexico d.f.
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Posted: Mon Mar 22, 2010 9:36 pm Post subject: |
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hoo ok, I thought it was very short distance between the platen to bottom of the oven (much shorter than 70cm), maybe the perspective of pic gave me that impression, but I think that is good height 70 cm
congratulations again, I will be wiating for more of your progress
thanks for share!!! |
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Benjaminvegeta Novice
Joined: 21 Feb 2010 Posts: 36 Location: Bavaria/Germany
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Posted: Tue Mar 23, 2010 11:22 am Post subject: |
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Today I built a (ugly) little control box for the oven.
Oven is running.
The hole is for a vacuum gauge
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Benjaminvegeta Novice
Joined: 21 Feb 2010 Posts: 36 Location: Bavaria/Germany
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Posted: Wed Mar 24, 2010 2:23 am Post subject: |
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Yesterday I was a little worried because I had the feeling that my oven is not becoming hot enough.
So today I measured. At 210°C and rising I stopped because my gloves were to hot for my hands
So Iīm really relieved. I was concerned all night if I would have to rethink my oven _________________ If it doesnīt exist, build it! |
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jdougn Guru
Joined: 18 Mar 2009 Posts: 714 Location: Louisville KY area
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Posted: Wed Mar 24, 2010 9:02 am Post subject: |
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Benjaminvegeta wrote: | Yesterday I was a little worried because I had the feeling that my oven is not becoming hot enough.
So today I measured. At 210°C and rising I stopped because my gloves were to hot for my hands
So Iīm really relieved. I was concerned all night if I would have to rethink my oven |
Sounds like you're doing good with the oven. Rethinking design issues seems to part of the vac forming build process but glad your oven is working right! _________________ DougN - Just in case you're wondering, I got my "rating" legitimately... by posting aimless drivel, useless advice, and pointless questions. |
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Benjaminvegeta Novice
Joined: 21 Feb 2010 Posts: 36 Location: Bavaria/Germany
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Posted: Fri Mar 26, 2010 10:48 am Post subject: |
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Today I did the plumbing of my machine. Mostly I used copper pipes. For the connection of vacuum pump and vacuum meter I use vacuum hoses with extra thick walls. These are from motorsports supplies and were lying in one of my boxes.
I chose a 2-stage system with extra valve for the tanks
Of course I already tested my vacuum part of the machine and luckily there are no leaks. The pump reaches its lowest pressure point and when opening the valve there is that nice sucking sound from the platen
Here are pics:
In right upper corner you can see that the copper pipe is going on. Itīs going to a closed bung which gives me the opportunity to upgrade to more tanks in the future:
Vacuum pump:
Then I glued some wood stripes into place around the platen which will help to form the seal. When the glue dried, I will seal the stripes with some silicon.
Complete view of the machine:
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jdougn Guru
Joined: 18 Mar 2009 Posts: 714 Location: Louisville KY area
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Posted: Fri Mar 26, 2010 6:06 pm Post subject: |
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Nice Work! You're doing a great job of adapting to what you have available. Being able to add more tanks is smart thinking too. _________________ DougN - Just in case you're wondering, I got my "rating" legitimately... by posting aimless drivel, useless advice, and pointless questions. |
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