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PostPosted: Wed Feb 08, 2012 3:54 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

If you can fill the void in the mould where the hole is popping it will sort out the problem.

If you need to have some kind of undercut then try tapering the undercut rather than having a void. Mould removal will be harder but at least you will have a perfect pull and you can cast a new mould.[/img]
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PostPosted: Wed Feb 08, 2012 8:32 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

MDR wrote:
Yes the mdf board is on my list for tomorrow. I'm going to fill the undercut with the board and a base with a bevel.

This is an example, it's the last pull I did, I just ruff cut it out. Sorry I can't post the image from my phone, so maybe someone could for me.


For some reason there are some images that won't post up here. Obviously some do so I don't know the difference.


Code:

I took the "?t=1328657828" out of the url and it posted.
Original url - http://i1122.photobucket.com/albums/l531/MDR38/1328657826.jpg?t=1328657828
Changed url - http://i1122.photobucket.com/albums/l531/MDR38/1328657826.jpg

So that part is actually a cowling for just in front of the driver? Looks good sitting on the frame. How close is it to what you intended?
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PostPosted: Wed Feb 08, 2012 12:23 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

It's very close, just didn't form properly on the front grill area. This is the piece that sucked the hole and lost some of it's shape. I sent this photo to some dealers and they are very interested, maybe everything will work out!
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PostPosted: Thu Feb 09, 2012 6:55 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Man I tried a sheet of petg, and man what a big difference form hips. I can heat hips for about 2 min, I let that petg sit in there for about 7 min and still not real soft in the corners.
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PostPosted: Sun Feb 12, 2012 12:01 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Do you have to preheat PETG, I tried a piece with hundred of small bubbles.
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PostPosted: Sun Feb 12, 2012 1:11 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

When I have used PETG, I did not preheat and it worked fine. However, I do not have a lot of experience with it. Perhaps Scott or others will chime in.
I would say, it either has moister content (which heating is suppose to help with, although for my acrylic that has not worked yet) or you are heating it too much with breaks down the plastic? Again that was something Scott had mentioned to me. You could try to heat it low and slow?
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PostPosted: Sun Feb 12, 2012 9:48 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I did form a piece of acrylic with perfect results, but when I tried to pull the form off it cracked along the bottom. The center section of my oven is wide open right now, last week one of my switches fried, and I had a guy solider around the bad spot to get by for now, but I'm gonna have to order a new one ASAP now. I'm tring to sell these and the clear is the one everyone wants. Thanks for the info, and maybe Scoot will crime in and help me out.
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PostPosted: Mon Feb 13, 2012 2:02 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Ck The Inbox....
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PostPosted: Tue Feb 14, 2012 8:42 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Well, I got ahold of Scott and he gave me some every good information. I'm very thankful for all this great advise, there is know way I could have accomplished this project with out the great leaders on this site. Were getting orders in and will be filling these orders with quick turn arounds.
Thanks again
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PostPosted: Fri Feb 17, 2012 1:02 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I finally got to order my bc8009, it will hold only 5 gallons. I had to make a bigger piece to go into my mold as a backfill, the first one didn't take up enough room, it was going to hold 7 gallon. I made a Mdf box the same shape as the mold only 1"sq smaller and then filled the box with rocks. Golfballs where to large and marbles are extinct I guess, I looked everywhere. Maybe ill get this new mold made, it's getting old having to repair my old mold after every pull.
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PostPosted: Fri Feb 17, 2012 2:41 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

then look for pea gravel and landscape lava rock ....
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PostPosted: Fri Feb 17, 2012 4:37 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Remember that BC8009 does not like humidity or moisture. It won't set up correctly if the filler is too humid. Even the MDF gets coated with shellac before it's used as a filler when casting BC8009. Also, follow the directions when mixing. Mix part A & part B in their own cans with a power mixer until the liquid is perfectly smooth. It is not uncommon to have heavy sediment in the bottom of the can that has to be gouged out by hand. After the two have been poured into a 5 glln bucket and thoroughly mixed then pour them into another bucket to make sure the corners are mixed.

I've had to deal with both issues. The humid filler leaves the BC8009 sort of gooey and sticky. Unblended mix is a catastrophe.
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PostPosted: Fri Feb 17, 2012 4:41 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Yea I used small river rocks, thanks for all the great info. I should be getting in my new switch any day now, I'm ready to get that petg another try, that's what everybody is asking for.does anybody know if you can get transparent colors in petg, like they use for sunglasses lenses?
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PostPosted: Fri Feb 17, 2012 4:58 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

MDR wrote:
Yea I used small river rocks, thanks for all the great info. I should be getting in my new switch any day now, I'm ready to get that petg another try, that's what everybody is asking for.does anybody know if you can get transparent colors in petg, like they use for sunglasses lenses?


So you've cast the molds? How did they turn out?!

Where have you looked for PETG?
One possible source is Professional Plastics. My understanding is you can often get a better price if you call them instead of ordering off their website. I think there's a thread on this forum listing various plastic supplier also. Spektr would be good to talk to on this since he uses clear stuff for what he does.
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PostPosted: Fri Feb 17, 2012 7:32 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I havent cast my mold yet, I just now got it ordered. My first order of PETG was made by makolon, but after some research I think vivak is a better choice, they say this is available in transparent colors and mirrored, but can't find a color chart.
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