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tubachris85x Master
Joined: 15 Jan 2007 Posts: 351 Location: Ft. Lauderdale, Florida
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Posted: Sun Sep 09, 2007 8:20 pm Post subject: Wiring LED's |
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Im working on a smaller project, where I need to wire 5 LED's, and two "lamps."
I want to be able to connect all of them to one main power source, and be able to turn all of them on with one switch.
Here is a picture of all the lights and switch I got. I figured that if I could put it all on a circuit board, it might work, but then again, I have absolutly no idea as to how to construct circuit boards. Thanks!
-tubachris
*edit*: 4 LED's each require 2.1V
1 5V LED
2 12V lamps
1 double pole, single throw toggle switch _________________
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thebluecanary Expert
Joined: 02 Feb 2006 Posts: 123 Location: St. Louis, MO
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Posted: Mon Sep 10, 2007 7:04 am Post subject: |
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OK First thing you need to know is the power so you can calculate your resistors for the LEDs.
http://metku.net/index.html?sect=view&n=1&path=mods/ledcalc/index_eng#parallel
OK what is your power sorce? Wall? Batteries? I like to uses old power chragers from cell phones or from printers.
Its real simple. Wire them in parrallel. Go with a 12v power suplly if you can (you have the 12 vol lamps.)
POWER --- LAMP --- GND
POWER --- LAMP --- GND
POWER --- 100 omh --- LED --- LED --- LED --- LED --- GND
POWER --- 68 omh --- LED --- GND
That should give you an idea. I've done this a LOT and never set anything on fire yet =) I have burned out a lot of LEDs tho. Hehehe
NOTE: There is only one power and one ground, that is just the points where all your stuff comes back together. One centeral point they all shoot off from, and then one point they all return to.
EDIT: The switch would go between the power and your Lamps/LEDs |
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tubachris85x Master
Joined: 15 Jan 2007 Posts: 351 Location: Ft. Lauderdale, Florida
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Posted: Mon Sep 10, 2007 11:52 am Post subject: |
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Hmm..Im still having a bit of trouble trying to figure out the resitance, because it says I need a 150Ohm resistor for just 4 regular 2.1v LED's, but I need to also connect a 5v LED in the middle of it all. The prop I am making is portable, and needs its own power source.
Can anyone make like a diagram on how to do this, if its at all possible? Thanks _________________
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thebluecanary Expert
Joined: 02 Feb 2006 Posts: 123 Location: St. Louis, MO
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Posted: Mon Sep 10, 2007 2:53 pm Post subject: |
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OK here is my crappy drawing. I hope it helps some what.
You have power on the lower left. And your bulbs on the right.
I set it up in parrallel, meaning you have a different resistor for each collection of LEDs. I based it on the red being one set, the lamps a 2nd set, and all the greens being a 3rd set. |
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tubachris85x Master
Joined: 15 Jan 2007 Posts: 351 Location: Ft. Lauderdale, Florida
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Posted: Mon Sep 10, 2007 3:44 pm Post subject: |
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Wow man, that really explains it clear enough for me. Just one last question, does it matter if the resistor is on either black/red wires?
-tubachris _________________
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mnttech Novice
Joined: 04 Jul 2007 Posts: 34 Location: Aurora Colorado
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Posted: Mon Sep 10, 2007 7:40 pm Post subject: |
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Great little calculator! _________________ Never force anything, always get the bigger hammer. |
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tubachris85x Master
Joined: 15 Jan 2007 Posts: 351 Location: Ft. Lauderdale, Florida
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Posted: Mon Sep 10, 2007 10:34 pm Post subject: |
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Alright, well I did the math, and added all the voltage needed, and its 33.2 volts all together. The thing is I do not know what I can use to produce that much power! Maybe like 2 12v batteries, and one 9v. This would produce 33v even, so it wouldnt go over.
If I decide to use 3 seperate battery packs like this, is it okay to solder more then one wire to the switch poles? Or is there a way to make a power supply by itself like this? Thanks!
-tubachris _________________
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tubachris85x Master
Joined: 15 Jan 2007 Posts: 351 Location: Ft. Lauderdale, Florida
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Posted: Mon Sep 10, 2007 10:42 pm Post subject: |
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wait, never mind, I just did an experiment with the 2 12v lamps, I taped them in parallel and put each end on a 12v battery, both illuminated evenly and the same as it would be with just one lamp on it. I never fully understood what it meant to be in "parralle" until now. Thanks guys, I guess I can just wire all of these to a 12v battery pack.
-tubachris _________________
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thebluecanary Expert
Joined: 02 Feb 2006 Posts: 123 Location: St. Louis, MO
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Posted: Tue Sep 11, 2007 6:28 pm Post subject: |
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tubachris85x wrote: | Wow man, that really explains it clear enough for me. Just one last question, does it matter if the resistor is on either black/red wires?
-tubachris |
Resistors should always be on the "hot" side. They "protect" the LEDs from too much juice. =) |
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tubachris85x Master
Joined: 15 Jan 2007 Posts: 351 Location: Ft. Lauderdale, Florida
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Posted: Thu Sep 20, 2007 4:14 pm Post subject: |
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Sorry to bring this up again, but Im having trouble trying to find the right resistors. My only source of resistors right now, is radioshack. The calculator says for my 4 LED's, I need "Nearest higher rated 10% resistor"
Same thing for the blinkin LED.
What Im basically asking, is if I walk into Radioshack, what resistor do I have to get? Thanks!
-tubachris _________________
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mnttech Novice
Joined: 04 Jul 2007 Posts: 34 Location: Aurora Colorado
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Posted: Thu Sep 20, 2007 4:47 pm Post subject: |
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tubachris85x wrote: | I need "Nearest higher rated 10% resistor"
-tubachris |
Great! A question I can answer!
Resistors come in "Standard Sizes", like nuts and bolts if that makes any sense. For example, 10, 12, 15, 18, 22, 27, 33, 39, 47, 56, 68, and 82 and their decimal multiples (220, 2,200, 22,000) are standard values. The calculator does the math and comes up with say 250 ohms. Since there is not a 250 ohm resister, it selects 270 ohms so that the current through the LED is less than the max, keeping the LED safe.
It also figures out how much power (read HEAT) the resistor will generate to drop that much voltage at that current (Power = Volts * Current, or P=IE). Resistors also are rated in watts, 1/8, 1/2, 2, etc so it picks the next bigger one, again to be safe.
Hope this helps. _________________ Never force anything, always get the bigger hammer. |
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tubachris85x Master
Joined: 15 Jan 2007 Posts: 351 Location: Ft. Lauderdale, Florida
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Posted: Thu Sep 20, 2007 8:07 pm Post subject: |
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So it says for example, a 100 ohm resistor. I was looking through the radioshack site, and a few would say "10k," I naturally assume "k" stands for a thousand, but that seems off to me. What would the K stand for? Thanks! _________________
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drcrash Guru
Joined: 04 Sep 2006 Posts: 705 Location: Austin, Texas
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Posted: Thu Sep 20, 2007 8:34 pm Post subject: |
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tubachris85x wrote: | So it says for example, a 100 ohm resistor. I was looking through the radioshack site, and a few would say "10k," I naturally assume "k" stands for a thousand, but that seems off to me. What would the K stand for? Thanks! |
K is thousands. Where I shop, there are 1 ohm resistors, 1 K resistors, 1 M resistors (a million), and a whole lot of things in between, over orders and orders of magnitude. They all have their uses. _________________ Paul (a.k.a. Dr. Crash)
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tubachris85x Master
Joined: 15 Jan 2007 Posts: 351 Location: Ft. Lauderdale, Florida
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Posted: Thu Sep 20, 2007 9:30 pm Post subject: |
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If I only need a 100 ohm resistor, will it matter if I get the closest thing, in this case, like a "330 ohm 1/4W 5% Carbon Film Resistor," would the 230 ohm difference affect the LED performance? Sorry for all these questions, just still learning. Thanks guys! _________________
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mnttech Novice
Joined: 04 Jul 2007 Posts: 34 Location: Aurora Colorado
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Posted: Fri Sep 21, 2007 7:57 am Post subject: |
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tubachris85x wrote: | If I only need a 100 ohm resistor, will it matter if I get the closest thing, in this case, like a "330 ohm 1/4W 5% Carbon Film Resistor," would the 230 ohm difference affect the LED performance? Sorry for all these questions, just still learning. Thanks guys! |
Well, that is 3 times the needed resistance, which would cut your current (brightness in LED terms) down by 3 times. If all your supplier stocks is the 330, use three of them in parallel. That would make the resistance 110 ohm, much closer.
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/---- Resistor ----\
----|---- Resistor ------|-----
\---- Resistor ----/ |
Just twist the leads together like shown above, and solder. _________________ Never force anything, always get the bigger hammer. |
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