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djtrickdog
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PostPosted: Thu Jun 21, 2007 11:12 pm    Post subject: webber grill? Reply with quote

could i use this to heat my plastic? how would i leave it heating without burning my hand? how long would it take to heat up? (plastic)

just incase you dont know what a webber grill is, its a charcoal grill.
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Plasticman
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PostPosted: Thu Jun 21, 2007 11:58 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Nope bad idea. Better to use the kitchen oven. Just be sure to open the windows.....
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PostPosted: Fri Jun 22, 2007 9:57 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

If your married, I wouldn't reccomend useing the kitchen oven. You will never hear the end of it if you stink up the house.
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PostPosted: Fri Jun 22, 2007 1:24 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Yeap, but it does work. Styrene doesnt smell so bad. I actually got my wife to help out too! Smile
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PostPosted: Fri Jun 22, 2007 3:09 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Are we talking about heating plastic with a charcoal grill?!?!? Would that even work? I mean.. I don't know how you would distribute the heat at all.. Cooking on a charcoal grill can be a challenge (controling the temp) but heating plastic? That I would like to see.
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PostPosted: Fri Jun 22, 2007 3:22 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Here is a shot of Blaxmyth's charcoal powered vac machine oven:

http://www.tk560.com/blaxmyth/Page3.html

and

http://www.tk560.com/blaxmyth/Page4.html








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drcrash
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PostPosted: Fri Jun 22, 2007 3:23 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I made a vacuum former oven out of a little propane grill ($15 at Academy) and some disposable aluminum pans. I made it for vacuum forming demos in places without electricity.

It's pretty much like the two-burner electric hotplate oven you've all seen by now, but with a different-shaped reflector in the middle.

Electric is more convenient under most circumstances, but the little propane grill works great. You have to adjust the heat a little as the pressure in the gas tank goes down, but it works, and you have heat control.

Charcoal sounds like a total pain in the ass, in terms of controlling the heat level.
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PostPosted: Fri Jun 22, 2007 8:27 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

And Paul, aka 'ANH Trooper' IIRC uses a gas powered oven, using a large metal plate as a heat sink/deflector. Here is a link:

http://www.tk560.com/gasoven.html




His diagram.


His burners.

Fun stuff, alternate heat sources. I'd say that electric is the most convienient, then gas. Gas might be a tad cheaper to build a working oven, but might be more expensive to run.

I agree, coal or charcoal is a really crude way, but it can be done, Blaxmyth proved that. IMHO, coal or charcoal is best suited for melting aluminum, bronze, etc. or for a raku kiln, and not melting plastic.

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djtrickdog
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PostPosted: Fri Jun 22, 2007 10:55 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

no no no im not married lol im 14 lol. even worse than a wife is a MOM LOL. BUUUUUUT i have a kitchen stove in the garage since we got a new one, maybe i can wire it Smile so charcoal sounds like a nono especially for beginners....
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PostPosted: Mon Jun 25, 2007 1:39 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Wow.. learn something new every day.. Makes me wounder why I'm playing with these damn sunbeam grills then.. Sad I have a gas line already going to my garage..
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